Read it, same ol' fight: Kinsley loses fight, wins battle
I like this kind of thing. It usually doesn't shake the world but it's nice to see the interplay of intellects.
Danner won this discussion, hands down, with links and supporting documentation to support his position. The DSM is an important step in the realization that must be made about how we got into this mess. Here, our friends and allies are recognizing that we're hell-bent on going to war and the facts be damned.
Kinsley wins the battle because, well, his view is what everyone is seeing. I think he's been around along enough to recognize that this memo didn't provide the names, dates and such necessary to make it a seismic shift smoking gun.